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Why do meditation Gurus and their followers believe in reincarnation, soul and destiny?

It is scientifically proven that meditation is stress reliever and provider of positive mental state. It helps in concentration in the study and the work. Then even after years of being in regular mediation, why do meditation gurus and their followers believe in reincarnation, soul, destiny based on previous life, etc which are not recognized by science? Cant they still see things as they are?

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  1. You can't "see" any of the three. They must have a different way of seeing.
  2. I don't believe in God, nor do I believe that when we die, we go to a magical place in the sky that allows us to be with everyone we've ever loved (nevermind, that they are still alive on earth) and we can eat all the chocolate we want without getting fat However, I cannot accept that when we die, we just cease to exist; there is an energy within us that can't simply die or fade out and it must find a new host body - that is when we are reborn You can see this energy within yourself by seeing your aura - everyone has an aura and it only takes a practised eye to be able to see the faint glow that emanates from your body. I'm sure this sounds unreasonable to many people, but I cannot view it any other way
  3. Curious Can't science see that it does not know it all, what these Gurus understand comes from a wise, experienced mind. Sadhara
  4. Some Gurus having advanced in their meditation see it for themselves rebirth, haven and hell etc. Having seen it for themselves, they know it. Their followers having faith in their guru but not seen it themselves believe there is rebirth, haven and hell. To answer your question, they believe in it because they have faith (hold to be true) in their Guru or God or Religion etc. They know it because they have experienced it. Science is based on reasoning. Math is based on reasoning. Hypothesis , test and experiments. There is limitation to what science can or cannot do. How would you explain to a blind man the color red if he was borned blind ? Will he ever believe there is such thing as a red color ? To him the world is all dark. That is what he sees. Then you might think, Of course the blind man can't see red. I am not blind. I can see red but I cannot see ghost, haven, hell etc. How did they see it ? Is it real ? (those are legitimate questions) The reason we cannot see it is because of the 5 hindrances.(blind) 1. Restlessness and Remorse 2. Sloth and Topor 3. Ill will 4. Sensual Desire 5. Doubt If you want to see them, practice deep concentration meditation (jhanna) and clear these hindrances. Just like having tasted salt in your mouth you know without doubt what salt taste like. You know for yourself if haven, hell, rebirth etc really exist.
  5. Excellent question! I can only comment from a Buddhist point of view, being that I haven't studied any other forms of meditation. Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche (a Tibetan Lama who taught in the US in the 1960's) was once asked, "If there is no Self, what is it that gets reborn?" He answered, "Well, I hate to tell you this, but it's mostly your bad habits." (not a direct quote, but close enough) Buddhists tend to view rebirth in two ways -- microcosmic (the moment to moment conditional arising and passing away of all phenomena, including our sense of "I" or "Self") and macrocosimic (being reborn as another being life after life depending on one's previous actions, thoughts and intentions). Not all Buddhists believe in macrocosmic rebirth, and microcosmic rebirth is fairly easy to see through certain types of meditation (my favorite being vipassana). To sum it up, the belief is based on knowing deeply the way all phenomena come in to being. When one realizes that they too are a continuous stream of phenomenological happenings, they may realize that their very existence is causal, impermanent, interconnected with everything, has arisen from prior happenings and will lead to other happenings. It is not necessarily the Self that gets reborn, but rather the continuation of a process or happening from which we are all contributing forces. This may be interpreted differently by different practitioners/yogis based on their cultural background and underlying beliefs.
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